Comments on: Waterless toilet systems http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/ Otway Barham Catchment Landcare Group Sun, 20 May 2012 13:22:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: greg http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-118866 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:39:05 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-118866 Hi. As the Really happy owner of a nature loo 750, I have a few hints , Firstly the powdered additive for a nature loo can be replaced by Bokashi fermented grains for use in the MAZE indoor composter! Exactly the same but 5 litres of grains for about $13 and the "flushing" liquid can be replaced by Pascoes "drain clean" liquid, watered down at twenty to one, plus one tiny bottle of cheap vanilla/ 500ml of watered down concentrate! this is then watered down AGAIN just as the proprietary Liquid! so you get around 20 litres for $9 + vanilla essence ( the cheap type) . Bokashi and the enzyme Drain cleaner is available from Bunnings. Another hint is that to level the pile, i use a toilet roll tube that has been stapled at one end pushed on a stick about 45mm x 15mm x whatever length you need, fits snugly and when you carefully swing it back and forth getting further down till level! the toilet roll tube can be "wiped off" when removing the hopefully clean stick! The other thing I am using is "cold horse and pony pellets" as the carbon additive, as they are much cleaner than sawdust or bagas, and the users handfull is just the right amount! Regards greg Hi. As the Really happy owner of a nature loo 750, I have a few hints , Firstly the powdered additive for a nature loo can be replaced by Bokashi fermented grains for use in the MAZE indoor composter! Exactly the same but 5 litres of grains for about $13 and the “flushing” liquid can be replaced by Pascoes “drain clean” liquid, watered down at twenty to one, plus one tiny bottle of cheap vanilla/ 500ml of watered down concentrate! this is then watered down AGAIN just as the proprietary Liquid! so you get around 20 litres for $9 + vanilla essence ( the cheap type) . Bokashi and the enzyme Drain cleaner is available from Bunnings.
Another hint is that to level the pile, i use a toilet roll tube that has been stapled at one end pushed on a stick about 45mm x 15mm x whatever length you need, fits snugly and when you carefully swing it back and forth getting further down till level! the toilet roll tube can be “wiped off” when removing the hopefully clean stick! The other thing I am using is “cold horse and pony pellets” as the carbon additive, as they are much cleaner than sawdust or bagas, and the users handfull is just the right amount!
Regards greg

]]> by: Cameron Elliott http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-60381 Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:17:30 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-60381 Hi Simon, Thank you for sharing this information. Nature Loo toilets are now distributed by Ecoflo Water Management and the new website with the full range of toilets and greywater systems can be found <a href="http://www.ecoflo.net.au" rel="nofollow"> here. </a> <b>Cheers<b>Cameron. Hi Simon,
Thank you for sharing this information. Nature Loo toilets are now distributed by Ecoflo Water Management and the new website with the full range of toilets and greywater systems can be found here. CheersCameron.

]]> by: admin http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9988 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:07:48 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9988 Dear Herbert Clivus systems are being used in national parks here in Australia. What's wrong with them? Best wishes Simon Dear Herbert

Clivus systems are being used in national parks here in Australia.

What’s wrong with them?

Best wishes

Simon

]]> by: admin http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9987 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:07:07 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9987 Hi again Simon, I have just looked at the Clivus web page and found out something very interesting. The company product was actually invented and marketed here in South Africa under its original name brand as Enviro-Loo (Company name Enviro Options) by Prof. La Trobbe he has been marketing the product all over the world, sorry to say but unfortunately they do not have a very good track record, especially here in South Africa and our adjoining neighborhood countries e.g. Botswana, Lesotho etc. The truth of the matter is that they have been outlawed in Botswana. Sorry to give you this news but it is the truth. If I can be of more assistance please feel free to contact me Best regards. Herbert Gutstadt Cell: +27 83 252 1590 Office: +27 11 477 2441 Home: + 27 11 478 0246 Hi again Simon,
I have just looked at the Clivus web page and found out something very
interesting. The company product was actually invented and marketed here in
South Africa under its original name brand as Enviro-Loo (Company name
Enviro Options) by Prof. La Trobbe he has been marketing the product all
over the world, sorry to say but unfortunately they do not have a very good
track record, especially here in South Africa and our adjoining neighborhood
countries e.g. Botswana, Lesotho etc. The truth of the matter is that they
have been outlawed in Botswana. Sorry to give you this news but it is the
truth.
If I can be of more assistance please feel free to contact me
Best regards.

Herbert Gutstadt
Cell: +27 83 252 1590
Office: +27 11 477 2441
Home: + 27 11 478 0246

]]> by: admin http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9958 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:44:44 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9958 Hi Herbert I've posted your comment on our site but I'm a little confused as this posting is concerned with composting toilets. I've just built 2 of them based on the Clivus configuration but I'm still not quite sure what to use for a grating system . Have you and advice? Best wishes Simon Hi Herbert

I’ve posted your comment on our site but I’m a little confused as this posting is concerned with composting toilets. I’ve just built 2 of them based on the Clivus configuration but I’m still not quite sure what to use for a grating system .

Have you and advice?

Best wishes

Simon

]]> by: Herbert Gutstadt http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9952 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:29:38 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9952 Sorry I forgot to mention that this situation exists here in South Africa Sorry I forgot to mention that this situation exists here in South Africa

]]> by: Herbert Gutstadt http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9951 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 10:28:21 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-9951 I read what you guys say, however, do you not think that anaerobic no flush toilets are a better and more hygenic solution than composting toiltes? No intervention, no contamination of ground water no machanics etc. Having been in the industry for 6 years I have had the experience of seeing so many different systems and also seing what our Government are suggesting as a norm what people should be entitled to - as they call it a VIP (Ventilated Improved Pit) to me just another hole in the ground and no cognisans taken to the presivation of ground water. Looking forward to any comments I read what you guys say, however, do you not think that anaerobic no flush toilets are a better and more hygenic solution than composting toiltes? No intervention, no contamination of ground water no machanics etc.
Having been in the industry for 6 years I have had the experience of seeing so many different systems and also seing what our Government are suggesting as a norm what people should be entitled to - as they call it a VIP (Ventilated Improved Pit) to me just another hole in the ground and no cognisans taken to the presivation of ground water.
Looking forward to any comments

]]> by: Simon http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-1077 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 10:05:43 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-1077 You're right Roger. It will be interesting to find out if these are approved by Colac Otway Shire. My understanding is that most councils approve composting toilets. I put this up as a starting point. I had a neighbour in the Warrumbungles (NSW) who built the first composting toilet to be approved 30 years ago (a two chamber batch model). Over Christmas I asked how it was going and was assured that it has been without a problem all this time. The principles are really quite simple. You need plenty of ventilation, a temperature range and enough moisture suitable for composting to occur. There are the batch systems (like rota loo) and the continuous systems (clivus). I've used the plan an section from the Clivus system and am reproducing the basic system in concrete and brick. I've just done the footings and some of the brickwork. Will post updates here as I go. You’re right Roger. It will be interesting to find out if these are approved by Colac Otway Shire. My understanding is that most councils approve composting toilets. I put this up as a starting point. I had a neighbour in the Warrumbungles (NSW) who built the first composting toilet to be approved 30 years ago (a two chamber batch model). Over Christmas I asked how it was going and was assured that it has been without a problem all this time.
The principles are really quite simple. You need plenty of ventilation, a temperature range and enough moisture suitable for composting to occur. There are the batch systems (like rota loo) and the continuous systems (clivus).

I’ve used the plan an section from the Clivus system and am reproducing the basic system in concrete and brick. I’ve just done the footings and some of the brickwork. Will post updates here as I go.

]]> by: Roger Hardley http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-1046 Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:09:47 +0000 http://obclg.org/2007/02/13/waterless-toilet-systems/#comment-1046 SIMON This is very worth while info. Essentially what we all need to know now is whether or not the Colac-Otway Shire will "sign-off" on these systems. Good on you.........great stuff !! Roger SIMON
This is very worth while info.
Essentially what we all need to know now is whether or not the Colac-Otway Shire will “sign-off” on these systems.

Good on you………great stuff !!

Roger

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